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John Leguizamo Slams James Franco’s Casting as Fidel Castro: ‘He Ain’t Latino! How Is This Still Going On?’

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/john-leguizamo-slams-james-franco-casting-fidel-castro-1235334658/
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u/GuitarEvil 1d ago Tree Hug

So cast Seth Rogen as Che. Retitle it Pineapple Express 2:The Cuban Sandwich

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u/jdhdsomeone 1d ago

Pretty sure Seth Rogen said he wouldn’t work with James Franco anymore

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u/publius8 1d ago

Fat Jewish Che lol... man that sounds hilarious

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u/MandemOdia 1d ago

Someone call Universal Studios

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u/Dor-Yah 1d ago All-Seeing Upvote

Because he unironically really looks like Castro

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u/snark_enterprises 1d ago Silver

Same reason Ana De Armas can play Marilyn Monroe. Because she looks a lot like her.

Ironically it’s the reverse situation, with a Cuban playing an American 60’s icon.

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u/Thuper-Man 1d ago

Does she really look like Marilyn or does she just radiate a lot of sex appeal?

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u/Deliriousdrew 1d ago

¿Por que no los dos?

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u/C0oK1e_Monsta 1d ago

Yeah I personally don’t give a shit when one race portrays another race in a film. That’s why it’s called acting. As long as the actor/director isn’t punching down on the portrayed character there should be no issue with this

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u/Ghtgsite 1d ago edited 18h ago Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy Duck Dance Facepalm I am disappoint Plus One

Fun fact, Castro is Spanish/Portuguese (whatever, he's 100% Iberian European), and 0% latin

Edit:

Some might say, "but he was born and raised in Cuba, so he's Latin American"

Rule of thumb. If you would be Ok with them checking the Latin/Latino/Latina box when taking the SATs, then sure. They are Latin.

If you are ok with a Chinese kid that was born and raised in Mexico, checking the Latin/Latino/Latina box when taking the SATs, then sure, Castro can be Latin/Latino/Latina.

If not, then it means, the "born and raised" stuff only applied to white people, or you are full of shit.

Don't @ I don't care. Not replying to any direct comments to this any longer

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u/spaced-mouse 1d ago

Wasnt his father basically left on Cuba post Spanish -American war?

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u/Ghtgsite 1d ago

Yeah! At lease that's what wikipedia says

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u/spaced-mouse 1d ago

Hooray! I remembered high school history!

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u/VaguelyFamiliarVoice 1d ago

As a former high school history teacher, please tell your, hopefully not dead, teacher exactly what you remembered.

And show them Reddit. Life changing.

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u/westnob 1d ago edited 1d ago

Wikipedia agrees with you. And Franco is of Protuguse descent!

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u/whyenn 1d ago

Well we wouldn't want no Amateurtuguse.

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u/blurgmans 1d ago

I up-voted this when I read it because I agree. But then I took a step back and though about me. I was born in Cuba, my family left when I was little. I was raised in the US and have very few memories of Cuba. I look Latin but consider myself white because of my upbringing so I'm really confused on where to stand on this. Is it how I was raised and how I feel or how I look. I'm not throwing shade, I really have been thrown for a loop. First time in my looong life :)

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u/314rft 1d ago

Well, in the practical sense, since you basically only lived in the US, you're just American. Ethnicity for the most part is just about heritage and doesn't automatically directly affect mindset (it can but requires the parents obviously passing on old country traditions to their children).

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u/Puls0r2 1d ago edited 1d ago

I mean you can be American in culture but Latin in ethnicity. I don't know you so I can't really speak to who you are and how you live, but I'd just call you an American of Latin descent.

EDIT: I'd really just say Cuban descent. Whether you call that Latin is up to you I guess.

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u/therealpepsi 1d ago

Yeah the thumbnail looks like two pictures of the same guy. It’s called acting. Franco is acting so hard all the time he’s convinced me he’s also John Leguizamo.

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u/NessieReddit 1d ago Helpful

You're telling me they cast a white Iberian guy to play a white Iberian guy? Where does John Leguizamo think Franco's last name is from?

Castro was born to Spanish parents in Cuba, after his father immigrated to Cuba following his time serving in the Spanish army. Franco's father is from Portugal. So both are ancestsrly from the Iberian peninsula.

Franco looks a lot like young Castro, so I can see why he was cast. (Side by side comparison photos)

I'm more concerned about James Franco being a pervy sex predator. Why does Hollywood keep these creeps around???? Dude seems to have a thing for young teenage girls.

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u/1leeranaldo 1d ago

Saw the Twitter outrage ("Why is a white man playing a Latino/POC") and I was like weren't Castro parents European immigrants?

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u/EntertainmentAOK 1d ago

Why do they think “Latino” people can’t be white? 85% of Cubans self identify as white. This sort of outrage seems to be concentrated to the US and more specifically to Twitter.

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u/kennywolfs 1d ago

Lol, exactly. I remember a picture of someone complaining about how they were tired of white washing African people, and referred to the Egyptian character of Akmenrah in night of the museum. That character is played by Rami Malek, an actual Egyptian.

So these people that were complaining clearly did not know what an actual Egyptian looks like.

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u/irh1n0 1d ago

Is that a side by side of Franco and Castro or Franco and Shia LaBeouf?

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u/One80sKid 1d ago

Well they obviously couldn't get Shia LaBeouf for the role, too busy with a flag or a camera or something.

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u/chap_stik 2d ago

I mean to be fair he does look like a young Fidel Castro in that pic

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u/Joharis-JYI 2d ago

Damn he actually does look like Fidel Castro, especially when you look at the side-by-side comparison.

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u/ForProfitSurgeon 2d ago

Castro and Franco's fathers were from the same region near the Spanish/Portuguese border.

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u/RamenJunkie 2d ago edited 1d ago

Wait.

So what you are saying is, Fidel isn't Latino either?

Or at least anymore than Franco.

Edit: Yo, I got it the first 5000 replies, Latino is not a race.

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u/hero_roman 2d ago

I’m Cuban and have Portuguese heritage as well. There’s a lot of history between the countries.

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u/malledtodeath 1d ago

my half sister is cuban but her cuban family immigrated to cuba from scotland.

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u/devilthedankdawg 1d ago

Yeah he may not be a Latin American but his ancestry is “Latin European”. Its not like Chris Hemsworth or Alexander Skarsgard. Leguizamo played an Italian in Mario and Lugi.

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u/Jindabyne1 1d ago

He also played Tybalt in Romeo and Juliet and he was Italian.

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u/Ornery_Translator285 1d ago

I played Tybalt in Romeo and Juliet and I’m a white girl

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u/Jindabyne1 1d ago

Reported

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u/Leemursk8 1d ago Helpful

He also played Spider Mike in Spun, and probably isn't a spider

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u/Lower-Link 1d ago

He’s also played an asian character in his sketch comedy show and women in his solo stage shows.

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u/rcx6 1d ago

You don't hear complaints from all the sloths when he played Sid in Ice Age. Who's with me in a protest on their behalf??

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u/SkippyLarue 1d ago

He also played an Italian in Spike Lee's Summer of Sam

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u/apistograma 1d ago

Castro was Latino by virtue of being born and raised in Cuba. Latino is not a race, but a multiracial ethnicity. Like Castro, I’m white and my ancestors are from Spain, but I’m not Latino because my family didn’t leave the country so I was born and raised in Spain.

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u/J-Team07 1d ago

That’s why they call it acting.

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u/Bright-Ad-4737 1d ago

But "races" and "ethnicity" are just made up, socially reinforced and completely arbitrary constructs anyway. They have zero biological or scientific meaning.

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u/14sierra 2d ago edited 1d ago

A lot of latinos consider themselves white. Being latin is seen more of as a cultural thing than a race. It's shocking to me that Leguizamo would not know this already.

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u/bigeyez 1d ago

Latino just means you are from a Latin American country or descended from a Latin American country.

There are White Latinos, Black Latinos, Asian Latinos, etc. Any race can be Latino. Similar to how Hispanics can be White, Black, etc.

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u/Gamesgtd 1d ago

This is a hard concept for some people.

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u/jamesraynorr 1d ago

Yeah these people probably dont know there are sizeable German communities in Latin America as well and get suprised to see Germanlike Latin Americans

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u/bigeyez 1d ago

Same with Asians. I've met people of Chinese/Columbian descent who you'd never think could speak Spanish based on there appearance but it's their first language.

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u/Rightintheend 1d ago

Brazil has the largest Japanese descendant population outside of Japan.

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u/ChubzAndDubz 1d ago

Considering any Latinos ancestry is probably from the Spanish, who are Caucasian/ white, we pretty much are white, unless you have indigenous ancestry mixed in.

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u/apistograma 1d ago

There’s a lot of Black ancestry too, specially in Cuba. And there’s also Asians, Italians, Germans…

Castro was Caucasian being both his parents from Spanish families

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u/abutthole 1d ago

Fidel Castro was definitely white. Malcolm X once said "the only white man I ever really liked was Fidel" after their meeting at the Hotel Theresa in Harlem.

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u/Animaula 1d ago

Why did he like Castro?

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u/Brasher16 1d ago

Socialism and solidarity most likely

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u/abutthole 1d ago Gold All-Seeing Upvote Today I Learned

So at that time Castro was pretty widely liked in the US, he described his own frustrations with the US government as "they called me a communist because they saw a light shade of pink" he really wasn't a full-bore communist at the time of his revolution. The most communist thing he'd done is take state ownership over lands held by wealthy Cubans and American corporations and he offered to pay for them with bonds redeemable in 20 years, he said it was necessary to rebuild the economy before he could pay - but he was planning on paying for the lands not just taking it. He was a leftist reformer who had overthrown an awful far-right dictator who had turned Cuba into a client state for American corporations.

He then embraced communism and went deeper into it and grew more paranoid after multiple attempts by the CIA to assassinate him and overthrow his government and the Soviet Union continued to supply aid.

But at the time he met Malcolm X, he was an eye-opener to Malcolm about the universality of his struggle. They had met shortly after Malcolm X had left the Nation of Islam and was working on a more cohesive theory on what was necessary to uplift the oppressed black people in America, Fidel (a white man) was able to relate and talk about his own experience as a second-class citizen to American corporate ownership. Fidel opened Malcolm's eyes to the possibility of a larger revolution than just black people throwing off the white oppressors, he introduced a greater class consciousness and Malcolm appreciated that.

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u/longhairedape 1d ago

Client state of u.s corporations and the fucking mafia.

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u/Consistent_Ship_9669 1d ago

Excellent write up, butthole

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u/Horskr 1d ago

I wish my butthole was this knowledgeable.

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u/Armenian-heart4evr 1d ago

INCREDIBLE history lesson !!! I knew NOTHING of this !!!!!

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u/UnorthadoxGeneology 1d ago

Why did he like Castro?

Castro let him play with his Nintendo 64.

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u/SilverLakeSimon 1d ago

It wasn’t Castro’s Nintendo 64; it belonged to all Cubans.

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u/faustianBM 1d ago

The second controller is a different matter altogether.

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u/SMAMtastic 1d ago

Don’t believe everything you read on the internet

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u/NYGiantsBCeltics 1d ago

Both of them leading revolutions (in differing styles) against the dominant class, and Malcolm X probably considered he and Fidel to be fighting the same enemy: The United States.

I'm not sure when Malcolm met him, before or after his pilgrimage to Mecca that softened his more aggressive attitudes towards white people. Regardless, he had plenty of cause and reason to sympathize with Castro.

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u/apistograma 1d ago

Well, if you’re Argentinian, your family comes from Germany and you’re blond (not that rare over there), how the hell would you not be both Latino and white. For some reason some Americans can’t understand that you can speak Spanish and be white at the same time

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u/rokkzstar 1d ago

I mean. John legiuzamo himself is just as white as Franco lol

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u/apistograma 1d ago

He looks like he has some native or Asian ancestry from his looks but it’s not something I can say for sure.

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u/ravenschneid 2d ago

People should be glad that Scarlett Johannson isn't playing Castro.

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u/ErikkShone 2d ago

Didn't the Japanese audience receive that casting well in that movie? And for that matter as a fan of the original anime, the whole idea was that it doesn't really matter what you are on the outside, it's your ghost or what's inside that truly made who you were. So, despite ignoring a lot of the stuff from the original source material, they at least got that right. And that's not even taking into consideration that a lot of anime characters are drawn as "European" looking.

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u/rawonionbreath 1d ago

The creator of the original Manga was ok with it, at least.

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u/OdinsBeard 1d ago edited 1d ago

one of the artists that worked on the OG Ghost in the Shell literally used her as a model for a project to boost interest in a feature film.

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u/Gibborim 1d ago

Actual people in Japan gave zero fucks at all.

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u/GunplaGud 1d ago

Manufactured outrage is a wholly western thing.

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u/AbsolutelyUnlikely 2d ago

I don't care how well-cast someone is or how good of a perfmance they give, I can't enjoy a movie unless everybody's parents in real life were born in the right spots. /s

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u/Imagine357 2d ago

Are Spanish Europeans considered Latino? Is Franco a Spanish name?

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u/TirayShell 1d ago

Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

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u/Nythoren 2d ago

Franco's father is Portuguese, from a region relatively close to the Spanish border.

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u/greytiger 2d ago

From his Wikipedia:

His father was of Portuguese (from Madeira) and Swedish ancestry,

Madiera is an island off the coast of Africa, not really that near to the Spainish-Portuguese border. Famously Cristiano Ronaldo is also from Madiera.

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u/froggyforrest 2d ago

He does, but now that I think of it so does Pedro Pascal

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u/silverman5 2d ago Helpful Starry Got the W

Leguizamo played a gay drag queen and a very racist version of an Asian man……. Just saying

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u/fatandfly 1d ago Helpful

He also played a very famous Italian plumber.

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u/SmackedWookiee 1d ago edited 1d ago Helpful

moderately famous Italian plumber. Nobody cared about Luigi until Luigi's Mansion.

Edit: I love how everyone is shitting on me on the comments but I'm getting upvotes.

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u/Dubie21 1d ago Silver

Fuck you Luigi always had a better jump and fashion sense.

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u/Highlandertr3 1d ago

That floaty jump in number 2 was pretty special.

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u/Pitouitoo 1d ago

Peach had the floaty jump. Luigi had the high jump and floaty controls.

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u/hoopstick 1d ago

I always thought of Peach as more of a hover while Luigi floated with his little kicks.

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u/VaguelyShingled 1d ago

As a younger brother who grew up in the 80s you take that back right now

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u/oddzef 1d ago

When Mario was missing guess who went out of there and found him? Show some respect.

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u/radj06 1d ago

Fuck that Luigi was saving Mario's ass as far back as '93

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u/405freeway 1d ago

“Mario Is Missing”

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u/CDR83 1d ago

Every little brother/sister did. Older kid was always Mario.

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u/comeradenook 2d ago

How long ago was that, I don’t follow his career and I’m curious

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u/___OP____ 1d ago edited 1d ago

1995.

"To Wong Fu, Thanks For Everything; Julie Newmar."

Watch it! Wesley Snipes, John Leguizamo and Patrick Swayze as drag queens on the road to a big drag competition.

EDIT: You all have me watching the predecessor, The Adventures Of Priscilla, Queen Of The Desert. Thanks y'all for the suggestion and info!!

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u/Not_Without_My_Balls 1d ago

Haha that's nothing. Watch the opening credit's to "The Pest"

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u/expecto_my_scrotum 1d ago

Damn, I didn't see The Pest but the plot says Leguizamo's character is a teenage con artist and yet he was approaching 37 when the movie released.

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u/rayofkeywork 1d ago

I have a “core memory” of having rented that movie and watching it with my mom and brother, and my brother saying, “Damn, that’s enough to make you never want to watch it again” after the intro. Barely remember the movie tho, lol.

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u/theeighthlion 1d ago

Yeah, my old roommate said it was one of her favorite movies. I watched the opening and stopped it. It seems like one of those movies you might watch as a little kid and have rose tinted memories of it but that opening alone made it seem god awful

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u/T8ert0t 1d ago

The Pest walked, so Pootie Tang could fly!

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u/BroBrodin 1d ago

O have "I'm in the mood to scam, simply because I can." embeded in my memory since I was a child.

Well, at least he was a great demon clown in Spawn.

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u/kgy0001 1d ago

It’s one of my favorite feel good movies

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u/bozeke 1d ago

It is great. Came out around the same time as Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, which is a superior and more dramatic film, but To Wong Fu is great and probably Wesley Snipes’ best performance, maybe aside from the director in Dolemite.

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u/tattoosbyalisha 1d ago

Dude Snipes is AMAZING as Noxema Jackson, I want that character tattooed on me so bad

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u/heyzeusmaryandjoseph 1d ago

And a cameo from Rupaul, whose drag name is Rachel Tensions

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u/MantisToboganMD 1d ago edited 1d ago Silver Helpful Wholesome Take My Energy Starry Awesome Answer

Exactly, maybe this dude is just bitter over not getting the role.

Opinion Alert This blood quantum shit never ends anyway.

Lets say that Franco was Latino, but not Cuban? What if he was only half Latino? Would that be ok? What if he was only a quarter, but it was a Cuban quarter? What if he was full on Cuban but from the wrong province or his great great great grandfather was half Haitian. What if played a Vampire in Blade V "Daywalker: The Bladening" but wasn't actually a practicing member of the Vampire community?

I remember watching a 30 min YT video about whether or not Bruno Mars is a cultural appropriator because he looks like he could be black - what's he supposed to do? Stop making RNB and apply Korean skin whitening makeup? The natural landing point for all this idiocy would likely arrive at biting the most vocal proponents right on their ass.

The only thing that should really matter imo is - is the material being treated with respect. Is the portrayal respectful of the Cuban culture, history, and people. Actors are literally acting, they are portraying something they themselves are not that's literally what acting is.

That being said putting a bunch of white dudes in heavy face makeup and culturally sensitive headdresses for your shitty Indians vs. Cowboys shoot 'em up isn't fucking cool. Because it's NOT treating the historical reality and Native culture with respect.

Other relevant points from this same thread:

  • Ana de Armas is Cuban but just played Marilyn Monroe.
  • Both of Castro's parents were not Latino. They were European Spanish
  • Franco's dad apparently is from the same region as Castro's dad was so Franco actually has a super legitimate claim here. Like he's closer ethically to Castro than leguizamo is. *John Leguizamo was born in Colombia and moved to New York City as a child. He is american. What part of Cuban history is "his"?
  • Does that mean Lin-Manual Miranda can't portray Alexander Hamilton? Does that mean Al Pacino can't portray Tony Montana? What about Javier Bardem, a Spaniard, portraying Desi Arnez, a Cuban?

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u/RuinedSpiral 1d ago

Or, for that matter, Leguizamo playing an Italian, as he does in Spike Lee’s Summer of Sam?

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u/miss_g 1d ago

And Super Mario Bros

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u/RuinedSpiral 1d ago

. . . and Tybalt in Romeo and Juliet.

Dude plays Italians quite a bit. Was kinda shocked to learn he was Latino honestly.

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u/phrasing7 1d ago edited 1d ago

Not Italian, but he also played French artist Toulouse-Lautrec in Moulin Rouge

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u/Chewie4Prez 1d ago

Also that character was a dwarf and he played it by walking on his knees. Wouldn't that be more messed up?

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u/Poet_of_Legends 1d ago

Turns out that BOTH Patrick Stewart and James McAvoy can walk…

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u/LolaBijou 1d ago

“Got more legs than a bucket of chicken”

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u/Amockdfw89 2d ago edited 1d ago Silver Wholesome

Here is the thing though Fidel Castro is of 100% Spanish decent. His father was Galician (very close to Portuguese people) and his mother was Canarian (Spanish island chain off the coast of west Africa) .

Franco is of partial Portuguese decent on his fathers side. Fidel Castro is literatly 100% European. That would mean they, Fidel and Franco, are of both Iberian European decent. Fidel Castro isn’t indigenous or Afro Cuban, he is for all intents and purposes a white guy. At the end of the day Franco is an actor and actors portray people they are not. He looks the part, has been in decent roles before, and I’m sure most people don’t even care at the end of the day.

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u/Zauberer-IMDB 1d ago

This really shows how "Latino" is a grossly insufficient demographic classification. The mestizos people generally think of and the white-ass Cameron Diaz are treated the same in demographic reports. You think they have a similar experience in the US? Obviously not.

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u/Zarzurnabas 1d ago

This most importantly shows that its pretty dumb in general to give people artificial labels based on purely superficial traits.

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u/Laheydrunkfuck 1d ago

Preach my dude! Preach!

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u/Builtdipperly1 1d ago

But americans can't and will not help themselves and will keep doing that.

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u/karmato 1d ago

It's not a race. It comes from "Latin American", akin to "European" or "African". Fujimori, Pelé, Ana de Armas are all Latin Americans. When Americans think of "Latino" as a race (it is not) they think of a mix of White and Indigenous because they make up a good chunk of people who live in Central America and emigrate to the US. Go to South America and you will see every single race.

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u/ThisIsWhatYouBecame 1d ago

Latino isn't insufficient just cause Americans are ignorant of the diversity of Latin American countries lol. Unless you want to reinstate the old Spanish classifications for the census. 25% of my DNA is Indio but my skin is white, not gonna change how I identify cause I don't look brown skinned

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u/fr0styliterature 1d ago

The classification Latino has nothing to do with skin color - simple as that. It's a term referring to people who were raced in a Latin American culture (aka living or having close relatives from LatAm). Hispanic refers to someone who was raised in or has ancestors of a country that speaks Spanish (that can range from as white as a Spaniard to as brown as a Dominican).

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u/[deleted] 2d ago edited 1d ago

The only reason James Franco got the role is because Ja Rule turned it down first. Probably.

Edit: in what world can JL even pull off this caliber of acting: https://youtu.be/CDm27Y1zw8k

MONICA

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u/Corvo_Attano_451 1d ago

WHERE IS JA

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u/TrapaholicDixtapes 1d ago

Somebody please...get ahold of this mothafucka so I can make sense of all this.

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u/Weak-Pudding-322 1d ago

WHERE THE FUCK IS JA?!?!

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u/wunwinglo 1d ago

He looks like Castro. That's how.

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u/No-Astronaut5331 1d ago

Oh no... you mean actors portray other people???? That's so weird

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u/DoolioArt 1d ago

Indeed. Franco isn't even a president of Cuba. At this rate, I'll start suspecting Al Pacino isn't the devil, despite his role in the devil's advocate.

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u/bigbear32421 2d ago

John Leguizamo played famed painter Henri de Tolouse-Lautrec, in Moulin Rogue despite not being French but that's none of my business.

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u/Karamazov69 2d ago

Let alone the fact that Lautrec was a “little person..”

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u/hookahshikari 1d ago

I only know Toulouse-Lautrec from the SpongeBob episode where Squidward pretends to be his own ghost to get Sponge and Pat to be his servants lol

edit: scene here

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u/YoureFullOfIt82 1d ago

A Latino played Marilyn Monroe. Didn't bother me. This didn't either. I also don't care that a woman does Bart Simpsons voice. It's acting. If they can pull it off I'm okay with it. Look and act the part well and you've done your job.

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u/Fandam_YT 1d ago

Fidel Castro’s parents were Spanish and Franco is half-Portuguese so technically… geographically… he’s actually pretty close

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u/GangloSax0n 2d ago I'll Drink to That

And Johnny Legs isn't Italian. Did it stop him from playing Luigi?

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u/capo4ever88 2d ago

They made Anne Boleyn a black chick lol

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u/SilverFoxAcademic 2d ago

Joke is on Leguizamo. Fidel Castro wasn't Latino.

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u/Foxyfoxesfoxing 2d ago

Yep, both his parents were Spanish

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u/LadyStardust79 2d ago

James Franco has Portuguese heritage, so not too inaccurate.

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u/Curazan 2d ago Helpful Facepalm

Castro’s father and Franco’s father are from the same region in the Spanish/Portuguese border.

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u/chunkboslicemen 2d ago

Underrated comment in this debacle

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u/alexmikli 1d ago edited 1d ago

He also looks like him. Dunno if he can act like him, dunno if Franco deserves the role, but his racial background is irrelevant.

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u/BreadHead911 1d ago

Well he looks the same because everyone who lives in that region of the Spanish/Portuguese border, all of them, look like Fidel Castro.

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u/Lost_Tell9281 2d ago

Literally the same last name as Francisco Franco. Fairly common Iberian name.

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u/Builtdipperly1 1d ago

lmao look at this gringo

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u/pensamientosmorados 1d ago

Yes, he was. He was born in Cuba and his mother was Cuban.

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u/Ricta90 2d ago Gold Wholesome

That's coming from the Latino guy who played Luigi the Italian plumber in Super Mario Bros?.... MMkay.

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u/Phillipinsocal 2d ago

“First, they have ‘The Mexican’ with Brad Pitt, now they have ‘The Last Samurai’ with Tom Cruise. Well, Ive written a film, maybe they'll produce my film, The Last Nigga on Earth, starring Tom Hanks.”

-Paul Mooney “Chapelles Show”

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u/Ariaga_2 2d ago

That's hilarious, but wasn't The Mexican a name of a gun in that movie? Also Ken Watanabe was the last samurai in that movie.

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u/Etherbeard 2d ago

I think the whole group was the Last Samurai.

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u/Papergeist 1d ago

Indeed, it's plural.

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u/boodabomb 1d ago

Correct. It’s the last [of the] Samurai.

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u/iEatPalpatineAss 1d ago

Absolutely right, including Tom Cruise. From an East Asian perspective, it's about the spirit of the samurai, not the ethnicity.

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u/ishkariot 2d ago

And Tom Hanks' movie is about the last officially issued n-word pass which he must keep safe and hidden while crossing the country in order to reach the library of Congress, where it's to be kept and preserved for all time.

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u/Ariaga_2 2d ago

That's a sequel to The Da Vinci Code.

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u/Mortadella_Sangwich 1d ago

Yeah and the Last Samurai in the movie isn't the character played by Tom Cruise, it's the one played by Ken Watanabe

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u/goblin_goblin 1d ago

The last samurai was a terrible title for the movie. Tom Cruise isn’t the last samurai, but it’s about the last samurai. It’s confusing because the plural of samurai is samurai. So it’s about the “last samurais” not that Tom is the last samurai.

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u/SiriusC 1d ago

The title was fine. Putting Tom Cruise wearing samurai armor front & center in all of the marketing was a terrible idea. At least in terms of conveying what the story was about. Maybe the marketing was what they wanted it to be. But I definitely skipped it because I thought the title was talking about Cruise.

How could a person look at this & not think that Tom Cruise was the eponymous Last Samurai?

Then I saw it years later & loved it. A better image might have been an ensemble shot of Cruise, Watanabe, & Hiroyuki Sanada. Or Cruise in Civil War gear. I'd have been way more interested if the history aspect was played up more. "Hmm, how is it that a guy who fought in the Civil War is involved with Samurai? I should find out!"

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u/Ariaga_2 2d ago

He also complained when the new Mario movie didn't "cast any latinX actors".

They're italians, John. That's a country in Europe.

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u/ADeuxMains 2d ago

A lot of actors are really fucking stupid. Podcast interviews have made this abundantly clear to me.

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u/StevesMcQueenIsHere 2d ago

Podcast interviews have made this abundantly clear to me.

Also Twitter... and Instagram... and Tik Tok.

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u/GoodDog2620 2d ago

I’ve heard that actors read a lot of scripts and they think that makes them well read.

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u/treefitty350 1d ago

Some actors have the scrips read to them lmfao

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u/Healthy-Daikon7356 2d ago Gold hehehehe

There’s a reason they get famous for being people other than themselves lmao

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u/thisisnotkylie 2d ago

So are comedians. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a big fan of the podcasts I listen to, but it’s slightly jarring to know a multi-millionaire comedian can barely name the three branches of government or do basic math.

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u/LiberalAspergers 2d ago

A country that was the home of Latin. Technically, Italians are the true Latinos.

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u/PoiHolloi2020 1d ago

Rome conquered England so it's a surprise to me to discover that I am in fact Latino.

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u/pwnd32 1d ago

The entirety of Western Europe/the Mediterranean that Rome conquered:

“…maybe I am Latino.”

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u/El-Lamberto 2d ago

Didn't he also play Toulouse Lautrec, a Frenchman in Moulin Rouge?

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u/Guderian9139 2d ago

Yeah and didn’t he play a sloth??

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u/El-Lamberto 2d ago

Stealing roles from actual arboreal Neotropical xenarthran mammal actors.

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u/Pitiful-Shake-4416 2d ago edited 2d ago Silver Gold Helpful All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy Eureka!

should be more concerned about the guys numerous sexual predation allegations than this.

edit: both are undoubtedly an issue. i didn’t mean to say that the casting was somehow okay, more so pointing out that this guy is a huge creep and i’ve no idea how he still has a platform.

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u/Alive-Newspaper-608 2d ago edited 1d ago Gold Helpful

“How is this still going on?” Leguizamo asked his Instagram followers about Franco being cast as the Cuban historical figure. “How is Hollywood excluding us but stealing our narratives as well?

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u/AHrubik 1d ago

Both of Castro's parents were not Latino. They were European Spanish making John Leguizamo's argument pretty hollow and unfortunately poorly sourced. Castro himself was not Latino.

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u/YouCanCallMeVanZant 1d ago

Ana de Armas is Cuban but just played Marilyn Monroe.

You don’t have to match everything about a character to play it.

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u/teabagalomaniac 2d ago

I feel like there's a certain subsection of America that hates this and makes a ton of noise, while most people don't really care.

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u/RealCarlosSagan 2d ago

I’m latino (Mexican) and don’t care.

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u/GatorSurveyor 2d ago

Latino (Colombian), no me importa

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u/SensitiveOrangeWhip 2d ago Silver Masterpiece Bless Up

i guess Franco will just have to act like he is

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u/nixfly 2d ago

He is doing a good job looking like him in that picture.

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u/stansmithbitch 2d ago

I mean Latino isnt a race. Fidel and James are both white.

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u/Autoglocktavius 2d ago

Why would anyone cast James Franco in anything?

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u/Giolomi666 1d ago

Castro was of Spanish ancestry and this US created Latino race is useless there are white cubans, black cubans and mestizo cubans.

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u/Unorigina1Name 1d ago

american mfs when they realize brown≠latino

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u/Titan1912 1d ago

Can Mr. Leguizamo explain why despite the fact he isn't French it wasn't a problem for him to portray Toulouse-Lautrec in "Moulin Rouge!"?

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u/deadzfool 1d ago

"lighten up Francis".

Did you play Tybalt in Romeo and Juliet? Are you Italian? Did anyone care or get upset because a Latino is portraying an Italian?

The whole concept of acting is all about going outside the comfort zone.

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u/SmashBusters 2d ago

Pretty rich coming from a guy who played an Italian plumber.

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u/angryve 2d ago

He’s also had a lot of allegations that he’s a sexual predator. How is this still going on?

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u/WowThisIsAwkward_ 2d ago edited 1d ago

Hollywood are well aware of the issue but choose not to take action. That’s why Jared Leto and Ezra Miller are still in huge roles, despite them being serial abusers.

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u/k_albasi 1d ago edited 1d ago

James Franco's acting roles have fallen off considerably in recent years. It seems like the major studios have in fact chosen not to work with him.

People treat "Hollywood" like it's a cabal but there's a lot of different people out there making movies for cancelled celebrities to work with. None of the companies producing this movie are even based out of LA.

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u/PJTikoko 1d ago

To most people Hollywood is the cabal that secretly runs the government while also being the sole film company ran by CEO John Hollywood.

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u/Fuspo 1d ago

I mean so was Fidel Castro so perfect typecast.

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u/Far_Fignewton 2d ago

Leguizamo has a stage production where he plays 100 characters. They aren't all Latino

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u/lemonsweetsrevenge 2d ago

He has played an Italian American twice: Summer of Sam and the Mario Bros. Fabulous work as a gay man/drag queen in To Wong Foo.

Isn’t that what the heart of acting is about? Stepping out of your own natural life, and into the shoes of a different person?

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u/Potential_Case_7680 1d ago

Well a Cuban is playing Marilyn Monroe so there’s the trade off for the time period

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u/Warped_94 1d ago

This kind of outrage only goes one way

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