r/europe The Netherlands Aug 07 '22 Helpful 3 Silver 4 Wholesome 1

Percentage of people that experienced anger during a lot of the day Data

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u/Chiguito Spain Aug 07 '22 Silver Helpful Wholesome Press F

They have fado, we have enfado.

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u/507t04 Aug 07 '22 Helpful

For those who didn't get it and had to check the dictionary like me

fado - a melancholic Portuguese type of song

enfado - Spanish for 'anger'

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u/Faricheddar Catalonia (Spain) Aug 07 '22

Fucking gold

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u/seoress Community of Madrid (Spain) Aug 07 '22

Lmao, best comment

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u/CriminalMacabre Spain Aug 07 '22

Extreme mala hostia

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u/TTRO Portugal Aug 07 '22

We Portuguese like to cut corners. In the stages of grief we jump from denial straight to depression, bypassing anger and complaining about the Spanish along the way. It's a way of life

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u/Rootriver SOUMI Aug 07 '22

In Finland only depression, no anger.

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u/hat-TF2 Aug 07 '22

I have a friend who is of Finnish decent, but raised in Australia. He is the most cynical cunt I know. I swear his diet consists solely of cigarettes and pitch-black coffee. That being said, I've known him for 20 years and never seen him angry. He hates things and people, but it's always so... cool. Also his hairline is amazing.

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u/ovelanimimerkki Perkele Aug 07 '22

Yeah can confirm he sounds very finnish.

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u/taceau Amsterdam Aug 07 '22

Mika Häkkinen was in my mind when I saw this map.

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u/ThorDansLaCroix Aug 07 '22

People normally assume that depression symptoms are sadness and being quiet, but irritability and quick shift of humour are depression symptoms.

People don't realised how depressed are many of the angry people.

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u/knullsmurfen Aug 07 '22

This infuriates me, and I am thoroughly depressed.

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u/Capricancerous Aug 07 '22

"Depression is anger turned inward." — Dr. Milfi

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u/FrenchFriesOrToast Aug 07 '22 edited Aug 07 '22

…and complaining about the Spanish along the way.

That upsets Spain (22%)

Edit: my first thought at the view of this map: „I gotta move from germany to… Finland (too cold), …Netherlands (too expensive)… Portugal seems great!

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u/whatsupcutie Aug 07 '22

I think the percentage in Portugal would go way up if they were surveyed in real time while driving. Portugueses are so chill until they get behind the wheel.

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u/xomikron Portugal Aug 07 '22

LIGA O CARALHO DOS PISCAS PUTA QUE TE PARIU FODASSE

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u/ApprehensivePepper98 Portugal Aug 07 '22

PENSAS QUE POR TERES OS QUATRO PISCAS LIGADOS PODES PARAR NA PASSADEIRA CARALHO

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u/TheMentallord Portugal Aug 07 '22

Its true. Im pretty chill overall, but there are two things that put me immediately on edge: driving and League of Legends.

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u/hedgehogsinhats Sweden Aug 07 '22

I mean how the f can you be angry when you've got pastel de nata?

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u/vantablackness Croatia Aug 07 '22

Turkey has baklava but that doesn't stop the rage

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u/aykcak Aug 07 '22

Doesn't help when baklava is 10 liras one month but 50 liras the next

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u/LikesBigGlasses430 Aug 07 '22

It does. Without Baklava it would be 90%

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u/Potecuta Romania Aug 07 '22

Can confirm! Just finished doing the Camino de Santiago on a bike. The last two days in Galicia got me to spanish levels of rage. In Santiago I found a place that served portuguese desserts, among which Pastel de Nata. They were being prepared by a Portuguese man who has been preparing them for 50 years. Had two and I instantly started smiling ☺️

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u/user1304392 Aug 07 '22

I remember going to a bar in Portugal with a sign on the wall saying “Don’t yell, we’re not in Spain.”

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u/Pun_dimen Aug 07 '22

Siempre he pensado que los portugueses son super amables y tranquilos comparados con los españoles, ahora tengo una gráfica que me apoya

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u/drquiza Andalusia (Spain) Aug 07 '22 edited Aug 07 '22

Esta misma mañana he dado una vuelta por el campo en Portugal después de mucho tiempo, y nada más que me he encontrado en todo el camino con una señora. Le digo "OLABOMDIA" y ella me contesta "bbbbbooooommmm... dddddddiiiiiiiiiiiaaaaaaaa..." como si fuéramos de dos planetas donde el tiempo va a distintas velocidades.

Edito: Acabo de mirar y de la puerta de su finca a la puerta de mi casa hay exactamente 9,9km en línea recta. Dos mundos separados 🤭

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u/hedgehogsinhats Sweden Aug 07 '22 Silver

Of course the Turks are so angry, I've seen their ice cream sellers messing with them.

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u/BeatYoDickNotYoChick Denmark Aug 07 '22

I wonder how much is traffic-related.

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u/Jaqen_ Turkey Aug 07 '22

I'm a pretty chill guy. But I go berserk in two condition:

  • When I have to interact with anything related to politics
  • When I'm driving in Istanbul traffic

And the only time I don't have to interact something related to politics is when I'm driving.

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u/ch34p3st Aug 07 '22

Well you do need to decide wether you go left or right.

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u/Jaqen_ Turkey Aug 07 '22

That explains why I have %100 more anger rating while driving

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u/elkourinho Aug 07 '22

You know what's funny? In Greece we have the expression 'he became a Turk' meaning he became extremely angry.

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u/Canotic Aug 07 '22

The Swedish word for "absolute mayhem" is a Turkish loan word. In Turkish it just means "a crowd of people".

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u/Smokesforbreakfast Aug 07 '22

Bro in romanian we have the same word, calabalac with the same meaning haha

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u/joseplluissans Aug 07 '22

We use Kalabaliikki in Finland.

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u/Gamer_Mommy Europe Aug 07 '22

I think Poland did a real job on that one, "kabały", which essentially means trouble.

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u/ZweYo Azerbaijan Aug 07 '22

more people, more problem.

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u/morningdump247 Aug 07 '22

Lul in finnish kalabaliikki means a tussle.

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u/ZrvaDetector Turkey Aug 07 '22

Which happened after People (mostly Jewish and Muslim merchants and mercenaries of the Ottomans ) pissed off at Charles not paying his debts attempted to storm his stronghold inside the Ottoman Empire and clashed with the Carolean guards. Charles had a master at trolling people.

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u/Negative_Buyer3734 Aug 07 '22

Syftar du på ordet ”kalibalik”?

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u/Substantial-Try-7480 Aug 07 '22

"Kalabalik" men ja

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u/touch-a-noodle Aug 07 '22

Lol the same in Finnish, "kalabaliikki". A loan from Swedish?

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u/sultanofdudes Aug 07 '22

Sayings of "angry as a turk" are common in most european languages I think

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u/ClassyKebabKing64 North Holland (Netherlands) Aug 07 '22

Pretty genius, we are angry

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u/RaiDeiNz 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰜 Aug 07 '22

As a Turk, I see the same. Our difference is this: The ice cream seller I saw has Erdoğan on his face.

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u/Xpolonia Aug 07 '22

Do the ice cream seller also mess with locals? Or they just serve it without all the tricks whenever they hear you speaking Turkish?

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u/GodComplex_999 Aug 07 '22

Nope they mess with pretty much everyone, but if you kinda look naive, then they will mess with u even more

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u/levenspiel_s Turkey Aug 07 '22 edited Aug 07 '22

If you say "no tricks please", politely, in Turkish, then they will do it even more. They just like pissing people off.

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u/Atharaphelun Aug 07 '22

What if you get fed up and just walk away while they're in the middle of their theatrics (especially if they've already scooped put the ice cream onto the cone)?

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u/matrixus Aug 07 '22

Nothing happens. The biggest trick is to do the very same manouvers while giving money, you gotta see their faces.

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u/aishik-10x Aug 07 '22

turkish gigachads

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u/TripplerX Aug 07 '22

Traditional ice cream sellers are street performers, and they are very rare. They wear traditional clothing and decorate their stand too, you can easily spot them and prepare yourself accordingly. Since they are there for messing with people, they do mess with everyone.

Normally if you want ice cream, you just get it from someone who's just there for the business, doesn't wear traditional clothes, isn't obviously going to waste their time with tricks.

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u/Madchemist0 Turkey Aug 07 '22

After the ice cream vendor made a 5 year old girl cry, I just went up to him and said "2 ice creams bro, thx" in Turkish and he didn't pulled this trick on me.

Because,

  1. There were a lot of tourists around
  2. I looked like a busy local who just wants to eat the ice cream and go on my way. He understood that.
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u/Termi27_ Czech Republic Aug 07 '22

Saw that on a watermelon seller

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u/okario4 Aug 07 '22 edited Aug 07 '22

Have you ever seen their traffic Who the fuck is handing out licenses in turkey bro

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u/Anti-Scuba_Hedgehog Estonia Aug 07 '22

Someone with Italian heritage.

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u/will_dormer Denmark Aug 07 '22 edited Aug 07 '22

I lived in Finland for half a year, and I felt less angry than in Denmark. I stayed in Helsinki. There were fewer people in the streets since people often walked underground. There is cold so people do get less in each other's way and are more covered in cloth to protect themselves from the environment. Denmark feels more concentrated with people and people here are more extroverted, whereas in Finland you get more personal space.

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u/theswamphag Aug 07 '22

Lol, as a northern Finn I always get irrationally irritated in Helsinki, because it feels so crowded to me.

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u/Weirdo_doessomething Finland Aug 07 '22 Silver

Individuals residing in Northern Finland when they see other people more than twice a year

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u/Thinking_waffle Belgium Aug 07 '22

Reading this maybe I should have been a northern finn

But with my slight physical disadvantage...mmmh actually no.

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u/SpenglerPoster Aug 07 '22

with my slight physical disadvantage

Don't worry we accept even Belgians in Finland. As long as you are not Flemish of course.

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u/uiop789 Aug 07 '22

Shit, my Flemish cousin just moved to northern Finland. Gotta warn him the moose-next-door might bully him.

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u/Automatic-Web-8407 Aug 07 '22 Silver

Maybe you ought to warn the moose

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u/theswamphag Aug 07 '22

I'd be offenfed but this applies to me.

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u/ToBesomething Aug 07 '22

I was in helsinki a few weeks ago and the amount of cars, people and concrete made me sick. Lovely to be back in my silent forest plot.

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u/theswamphag Aug 07 '22

Oh yes the cars! It feels like I'm are eternally waiting for lights to turn green. I'm too impatient for that.

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u/rutreh Finland Aug 07 '22 Silver

You're on to something. I moved to Finland many years ago from the Netherlands, and whenever I return there now to see family I feel a bit on edge because the whole society is just so restless, crowded and chaotic in comparison.

On the other hand, on the subject of how countries deal with anger, I feel like Finns are a lot more embarrassed about being angry/frustrated/annoyed than people in other countries usually feel. I think anger is considered quite a shameful emotion in Finland - you're not only revealing yourself to be thin-skinned and 'irrational', you're also creating a tense atmosphere for other people.

I used to feel more comfortable expressing things like frustration and annoyance (in a normal, healthy way and amount) than I do now. I feel like Finns are very sensitive to it, and it has made me feel extremely bad and guilty if I've gotten a bit worked up about something here. By now I've gotten used to just putting those emotions away and pretending things are fine, even if they are not, because 'I don't want to bother anyone'. I absolutely love living in Finland and Finnish culture, but this is one side of it I'm not that happy about.

In the Netherlands, people would barely even call it 'being angry'. You could be a bit visibly annoyed for 1-2 minutes, deal with the thing, and move on. The expression of frustration (e.g. 'Why is this fucking bus never on time? We're never gonna make it now.') was a nice way to let go of some steam and deal with the emotion, in a way. Nobody would think twice of it. In Finland, I feel like people remember it and are more likely to see you as some kind of unstable, irrational force when you express that kind of thing. Like you've manifested a spirit of negativity that's hard to shake off somehow.

I might be totally wrong, and of course these are huge generalizations, but this is my personal experience. I don't believe that Dutch people's definition of 'anger' is the same as the Finnish one. Dutch people get worked up and annoyed all the time by all kinds of things, but they just move on from it quickly and don't really consider that kind of thing 'anger'. I feel like to Finns, fairly small expressions of frustration are already classified as 'anger', whereas in the Netherlands 'anger' would almost certainly have to involve feelings of absolute hatred, maybe screaming and slamming fists on the table and stuff like that. Not a mildly annoyed comment you made about some tiny thing.

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u/Snoo99779 Finland Aug 07 '22 edited Aug 07 '22

No no, you're supposed to put headphones on and blast metal until you've burnt the anger away and then calmly explain how this is not working for you and might you suggest changes.

Edit. Also, I'm thinking you don't speak Finnish? Finns love complaining! About everything, all the time. But when Finns complain, we do it with a bored face and monotone voice, because fine, I guess I'll just deal with this shit as well then shall I.

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u/rutreh Finland Aug 07 '22

I speak Finnish (enough to partake in work and party conversations, not enough to know anything about internet memes and deep cultural references and what-have-you), and I'm familiar with the complaining thing, the Dutch do it too, just in a very different way :'D

The bored face and monotone voice is precisely the thing. A Dutch person will look annoyed, sound annoyed, use an expletive, and move on like nothing happened, happy to have aired this random grievance of theirs. Whereas this doesn't always go over so well with Finns who may interpret it as the person being totally enraged.

I know Finns are annoyed and frustrated a lot, too, but it's usually hidden and kept inside, especially amongst the guys - I don't think it's very healthy. There's a lot of people carrying around a constant 'vitutus' throughout their day, unable to find a healthy outlet for it... Like I said I love Finland, but this is one of the few areas in which I feel like it's not always that great.

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u/ilep Aug 07 '22

It is particularly with older generations that you aren't "allowed" to show much emotions.

Then again, there is plenty of sarcastic comments used in speech in a roundabout way which is just something needed to "learn" when speaker means the exact opposite of what they are saying. "That went really well" usually means it went badly while "that didn't suck" means it was ok.

I think being laconic and detached during the day is pretty standard and emotions come up in some specific events.

I've heard plenty of people comparing how they are used to people showing lots of emotion (such as danish) but it is generally frowned upon by finns. Then again, some say in Sweden you are expected to show a happy face regardless of how you are feeling so as not to upset other people..

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u/OuCiiDii Aug 07 '22

We have a word in Finnish for being angry, but pretty much keeping it to yourself: Vitutus.

Sometimes I express my self by calmly saying "Mua vituttaa nää väärin pysäköidyt sähköpotkulaudat." Meaning "I'm very angry at these electric scooters parked in a wrong way".

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

You are right. Anger is a very serious issue in Finland. Either a root cause must be solved if you have a good reason for the feeling, or you are not stabile and reliable human being. Usually latter…

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u/kalaneuvos Aug 07 '22 edited Aug 07 '22

There is a saying that Finnish anger is like a mire lake - deep, black and cold (suomalainen viha on kuin suolampi - syvä, musta ja kylmä). So that sounds about right. Edit: spelling

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u/NordWithaSword Aug 07 '22

Finland also has a general cultural idea that expressing anger around other people is childish, like little kids are allowed to throw tantrums, but adults are supposed to be able to regulate their emotions and channel them away from other people. Seeing adults yelling or throwing stuff etc. in public is simultaneously off putting, funny and looked down on.

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u/SirKrayg Aug 07 '22

But the Netherlands is a place where its population density is much much higher than Denmark, so surely it can't be that.

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u/Zalminen Aug 07 '22

For Finland this is also partially a translation/cultural issue.
Anger is probably translated in the questionnaire as 'vihainen' or 'kiukkuinen' which are in Finnish a bit closer to rage.
In this context a better translation would be 'vituttaa' - to be annoyed or pissed off but which also covers silent anger. If the questionnaire asked about 'vituttaa' then the yes percentage would be much higher.

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u/Sea-Surround-7383 Portugal Aug 07 '22

Portugal can into Nordic

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u/Thessiz Portugal Aug 07 '22

It's always like this on these data maps. Portugal is either part of the Balkans or the Nordic Council, there is no in between.

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u/imaami Aug 07 '22

Every Portugese person I've met has been wonderful. All 1 of them. But it counts.

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u/ndr113 Aug 07 '22

Portugal on these data maps always be like:

Surprise modafucka

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u/onurreyiz_35 Turkey Aug 07 '22 Wholesome

With almost %200 inflation, I think it's normal.

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u/Wolfpack012 Sweden Aug 07 '22

Turks looking at their wallet: "The fuck do you want?"

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u/love_your_eyeholes 🇺🇸 -> 🇩🇪 Aug 07 '22 Helpful

Capital one: what’s in your wallet?

Turks: SCREEEEEEE

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u/CoronaMcFarm Norway Aug 07 '22

I would also be angry if the country was run by a clown

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u/eloyend Poland Aug 07 '22

Yeah, explains us in Poland...

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u/a_big_fat_yes Aug 07 '22

Oh look a pay raise, lets see, its worth even less than before 😃

But gotta look from the bright side, i have lost weight because i cant afford food, im healthier because i cant afford alcohol or cigarettes, i get more excercise because i cant afford fuel

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u/hmiamid Aug 07 '22

In Venezuela, they call it the Maduro diet. At least that's what Maduro himself was saying.

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u/Tintenlampe European Union Aug 07 '22

Write a book: "The dietary benefits of humble living"

I'll take 2% royalties for the title.

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u/joe579003 United States of America Aug 07 '22

I cannot believe that the lira was damn near 1 for 1 with the dollar at one point. Basically locking all but the richest who are proplerly divested into the country like a prison, FUCK

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u/ThiccAnimeDaddy Aug 07 '22

I went to Turkey for holiday this year with the last time I went being 3 years ago, and when I saw a bottle of coke costing 50 lira I thought I was misreading it. What the actual fuck happened with the inflation there in the last 3 years?

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u/einimea Finland Aug 07 '22

Now that I think about it, I'm rarely angry. Mildly annoyed is a bit more common

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u/iLEZ Sweden Aug 07 '22

Can't remember the last time I was jumping mad. Anger just instantly becomes frustration. If I get that angry I get embarrassed.

I think this is one of the reasons Donald Duck is (was?) so big in Sweden (and I wager the rest of the north). He loses his temper and becomes stubbornly enraged, which is hilarious to us since that's a failure here. Mickey Mouse on the other hand, that restrained, wholesome asshole, never really got as popular.

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u/Millon1000 Aug 07 '22

Yeah Mickey Mouse is a bitch.

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u/NeedNameGenerator Finland Aug 07 '22

For real. I only get angry at stupid shit I see posted online (and I can just filter that content out if need be), but life in general never really gets me mad.

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u/20150614 Community of Madrid (Spain) Aug 07 '22

When I see this kind of surveys I always wonder how much the words chosen to translate emotions in different languages affect the responses.

I mean, apart from technical terms, no word ever translates one to one between languages and they have different connotations. I'm sure researchers are careful when designing the questionnaires, but it might be impossible to choose words for emotions that mean exactly the same in different languages.

For example, for anger in Spanish we would have "indignación" (which would be closer to outrage and has some dignity to it), "ira" (which should be closer to wrath or other biblical shit), "enfado" (which is milder and used for children tantrums for example), "furia", "enojo", "cabreo," etc, and each one would probably change the responses.

Anyway, in Spain we also have a very toxic media landscape that profits from outrage clicks and viewership, but probably it's similar everywhere.

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u/MisterMannetje Aug 07 '22 Silver

Inuits have up to 50 different words for "snow".

Today I learned the Spanish have up to 50.000 words for "anger".

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u/samppsaa Finland Aug 07 '22

Just for fun had to count how many words we have for snow/ice. We have 59 according to wikipedia

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u/Diprogamer Spain Aug 07 '22

Wait till you learn how many words for "penis" we have

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u/Accomplished_Mud6729 can Turkey into eu🥺👉👈?😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🧐🧐 Aug 07 '22

Help

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u/slipperyandhot Aug 07 '22 edited Aug 07 '22

Portugal chilling on the beach.

I'm a Canadian, I really liked Portugal and Netherlands

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u/Eryk0201 Poland Aug 07 '22

r/portugalis...nordic?

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u/Donnattelli Aug 07 '22

Nah we just gave up being angry

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u/spock_block Aug 07 '22

Can't afford it

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u/_toodamnparanoid_ Aug 07 '22

"Still angry? No, we're Finnished."

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u/JOAO-RATAO Aug 07 '22

We just gave up*

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u/Ikkon Poland Aug 07 '22

Only 24%? Was the rest too depressed to be angry?

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u/Enconhun Hungary Aug 07 '22

Apathy is taking over, just look at us. We have plenty of reasons to be angry. 12%.

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u/veevoir Poland Aug 07 '22

Seems so. Anger is just a stage on the road to accepting the sad fate.

Some more inflation and we will go the Turkey route though.

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u/PigTenis Aug 07 '22

Turkiye why r u so mad ?

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u/Dear-Ranger6388 Aug 07 '22

Every day up to 48% of turks realize they live in turkey. I'd be mad too

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u/hedgehogsinhats Sweden Aug 07 '22

Wake up, get out of bed, look out the window... "Fuck not again!"

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u/PigTenis Aug 07 '22

Is it because other half lives in Germany?

Had to make that joke and I accept all consequences that come with it

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u/dr_prdx Aug 07 '22

No we send them to you from Turkey. But unfortunately they can still vote there. Pls make them cancel their Turkish citizenship.

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u/martin-verweij Swamp-german Aug 07 '22

Tbf visiting turkey on German salary is heaven. Real life cheat codes.

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u/wandspiegel Aug 07 '22

What I noticed in Turkey was the stark contrast between normal interaction and traffic interaction. People were extremely warm and kind in person, but in traffic everyone was honking and frustrated at the slightest impediments. Even if the other person wasn’t at fault at all.

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u/bxzidff Norway Aug 07 '22

everyone was honking and frustrated at the slightest impediments.

The amount of countries in the world where this is the norm in traffic is baffling. Honking is so fucking annoying, but I guess many get used to it

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u/Mirza- Aug 07 '22

The honking is actually not anger, it's a form of communication in a traffic system where nobody follows the rules

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u/ClassyKebabKing64 North Holland (Netherlands) Aug 07 '22

In Turkey those lines on the road are just that, lines on the road

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u/Tuna46501 Turkey Aug 07 '22

The one part of the answer is %200 infilation 1 bread is 4 liras right now but i have 2 liras in my pocket and i cant even afford simple bread right now and i am hungry thats why AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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u/LTFGamut The Netherlands Aug 07 '22

God damnit, fucking hell. Lost again to those incomprehensible reindeer munchers up north. I fucking hate you, Finland!!!!

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u/Malk_McJorma Finland Aug 07 '22

Nice try but not taking the bait.

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u/jarvis400 Finland Aug 07 '22

Lol, alankomaalainen!

You just went up to 9%.

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u/Tschetchko Kingdom of Württemberg (Germany) Aug 07 '22

chill out you're raising the statistic

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u/GrimerMuk Limburg (Netherlands) Aug 07 '22

I guess we’re still doing better than your country. 😂 Why are you Germans so angry?

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u/this_toe_shall_pass European Union Aug 07 '22

They constantly see people breaking rules but don't want to openly raise the issue as that would be impolite.

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u/AlienAle Aug 07 '22

If you'd sauna more often you'd feel chiller too

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u/The_DevilAdvocate Aug 07 '22

Can't hear you over the peace and quiet.

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u/Lentevriend Aug 07 '22

If it wasn't for Finland we'd be at 0%

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u/TheOneCommenter Aug 07 '22

We’re higher, so we win.

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u/saschaleib 🇧🇪🇩🇪🇫🇮🇦🇹🇵🇱🇭🇺🇭🇷🇪🇺 Aug 07 '22

r/NLvsFI – Finland wins!

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u/momasana Hungarian in the USA Aug 07 '22

Wow, Hungarians. I suppose when you're perpetually expecting the absolute worst possible, then just slightly bad results will keep you chugging along. That's the secret to Hungarian happiness.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

I just came back from Finland to Poland and the difference is very noticeable, Polish people are so aggressive 😬

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u/eip2yoxu North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) Aug 07 '22

Central Europe is united in anger 💕

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

Let's just call it a tradition and cultural identity

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u/helm Sweden Aug 07 '22

We need more state-sponsored movies about righteous Polish fury.

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u/TheSpiikki Aug 07 '22

Nice try, Netherlands! -A Finn

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u/my_soldier Aug 07 '22

All our anger comes from losing in football to germany and losing to finland in country specific statistics.

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u/no5tromo Greece Aug 07 '22

We have an expression in Greek which translates to "I turned into a Turk", it means "I got extremely angry". Now I see why this expression exists 😂

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u/L3-33_lover Italy Aug 07 '22

Germans angry 😳😳😳

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u/samstown23 Aug 07 '22

Yeah. We can get really worked up about minor infractions.

Here's a perfect example.

7.45am in front of a school. Guy comes along and wants to cross the street at the light. The light turns red just after he's stepped into the street but he continues to cross the street (technically legal). The school crossing guard makes some snarky comment about setting a good example, guy snaps back at him that he did nothing wrong and it takes about four seconds until the whole situation completely escalates. It ended with the police having to come and both pressed charges...

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u/flashpile Aug 07 '22

10/10 can confirm.

Had a German colleague send an "urgent" email to my head of department, because I didn't fix a 1.26 EUR mistake within the same day that he told me about it. This was at a fortune 500 company, with annual revenues in the 10s of billions.

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u/helm Sweden Aug 07 '22 edited Aug 07 '22

I've had 1 project manager become enraged at me: he was German (he was more angry at his subordinate, though). Red-in-the-face angry. And not for a mistake, for us talking about the wrong things at work.

The one manager I've personally had who went ballistic? She is Polish.

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u/valmotti Finland Aug 07 '22

There's alot of turks in germany aswell

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u/LikesBigGlasses430 Aug 07 '22

HOW DARE YOU ASSUME ITS US????!!!!!! ILL SHOW YOU ANGER

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u/alrightshud Turkey Aug 07 '22

Erdogan calls the exact 48% of the population who didn't vote for him "TERRORISTS!!" daily, so this map makes excellent sense. I, one of 48%, personally wake up with hate every day, thanks to him.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

Oh it's kind of like when Americans had trump calling 51% of the population vile names for four years. Except Erdogan has more direct power, and he's been in power longer than 4 years

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u/alrightshud Turkey Aug 07 '22

Exactly. We immediately knew what Trump was while the rest of the world was trying to figure him out in 2016.

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u/divineprofanity Sweden Aug 07 '22

Portugal is always sticking out

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u/jfk52917 Американиец Aug 07 '22

Finno-Ugrics united in tranquility!

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u/Tranokin England Aug 07 '22

Calmest man in Turkiye

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u/Accomplished_Mud6729 can Turkey into eu🥺👉👈?😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🧐🧐 Aug 07 '22

WHAT DO YOU WANT 🪓💣

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u/HelenEk7 Norway Aug 07 '22

Can someone explain the difference between Spain and Portugal?

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u/hey-make_my_day Aug 07 '22 Wholesome

Spains are angree and Portugals are not

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u/NeedNameGenerator Finland Aug 07 '22

Damn I wish you had been my statistics teacher.

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u/HelenEk7 Norway Aug 07 '22

That made me laugh. It shouldn't, but it did.

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u/nanimo_97 Basque Country (Spain) Aug 07 '22

You see spain borders both France AND the UK. It's a mira le we are not at 50% 😜

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u/furinkasan Aug 07 '22

Good point. I’d be pissed off too.

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u/gxlrygt Turkey Aug 07 '22

As a Turk living in Finland, this is one of the reasons I don't want to move back

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u/jakub_199 Aug 07 '22

Me being polish I definitely agree that we argue between ourselves a lot. Probably just repeating bad communication patterns of our parents.

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u/Wessel-P Overijssel (Netherlands) Aug 07 '22

They can't keep getting away with this!!

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u/Warownia Aug 07 '22

Im suprised with russia.

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u/Dalnore Russian in Israel Aug 07 '22

In my limited experience of observing people in the streets, Greeks and Israelis seem certainly more often angry on average than people in Nizhny or Moscow. When comparing the general average temper, I think Russia is closer to Finland than to many other countries. Showing any emotions in general is not very common if you are not in a close circle of friends or relatives, so people are used to suppressing them. Although I'm personally always angry on the inside, especially when I'm driving.

I'm more surprised about Italians, honestly.

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u/flashpile Aug 07 '22

My close friend is Greek. Several times I have assumed she's in a full blown argument, and she responds with "what do you mean? we were just talking normally"

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u/PaddiM8 Sweden Aug 07 '22

Russians always felt quite apathetic

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u/woronwolk Aug 07 '22

I'm from Russia, and I'm surprised too, but to think of it, I personally don't even remember the last time I felt anger – but that's probably just because of the type of person I am. On the other hand, aside from my 9yo sister, I don't remember when was the last time I've seen anyone get angry in real life, and I've been interacting with people more than usually during the past few months due to my graduation.

Idk, it's either emotional repression, or people are just more chill irl than on the internet. Could be a mix of both as well.

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u/bonescrusher Într-o țară ca asta, sufli ca-ntr-o lumânare Aug 07 '22

The angry ones are in the war

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u/PossiblyTrustworthy Aug 07 '22

How is Italy so low? Italians being angry about food is half of their reputation

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u/dondi01 Aug 07 '22

Turns out, its the only thing it gets them mad

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u/misho8723 Aug 07 '22

Yeah? Football exists :D

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u/CheshirePuss42 Greece Aug 07 '22

Why would they be angry about food though? They live in Italy

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u/ApachePotato England Aug 07 '22

Scandinavia is a very relaxed place anecdotally from visiting

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u/anje77 Aug 07 '22

I moved to another country once and was terrified when my friends started shouting at each other in anger. I was sure they would never talk again, since I’ve never experienced friends shouting at each other before. They were best friends again the next day. Very confusing.

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u/fyreandsatire Europe Aug 07 '22

Country with most metal bands per capita in the world (Finland) = least angry country

take note, everyone else.. making metal is a great outlet for pent up anger/emotions..

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u/HedgehogJonathan Aug 07 '22

Yes, there are some similarities with the map of metal bands per capita

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u/morbihann Aug 07 '22

Mission Impossible 6: stay calm and be Turkish

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u/Hades_Moon Aug 07 '22

Finland. It just works.

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u/legendsplayminecraft Finland Aug 07 '22

The real motto is:

"Ei minun takia tarvii keittää"

source

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u/a_man_of_music Catalan in Vlaanderen Aug 07 '22

Estonia can into nordic

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u/PurpleInteraction Aug 07 '22

All the Mediterranea diet not helping with blood pressure in Turkey ?

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u/manfredmahon Aug 07 '22

Turks love sugary foods, their obesity rate is quite high actually.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

Can confirm the Dutch are extra chill. But when they rage, they rage internally and calmly.

Normally the consequence of their rage is just an invoice for time lost.

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u/goneinsane6 Aug 07 '22

It is very inappropriate to show anger in NL in many cases. Usually anger is quite irrational and doesn’t fix anything, anyone would prefer you to just talk about any concerns normally. Anger is very risky with escalating a situation and making other people uncomfortable, very not-done in pretty much any environment. I think there is an extra cultural aspect here for NL about how seriously detrimental it is for yourself to show anger.

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u/MetalRetsam Europe Aug 07 '22

doesn't fix anything

Ding ding ding. Dutch culture is very utilitarian. I was taught that if I worry about something, either A) I can't fix it and should just accept it or B) I can fix it and should do so pronto. No time for anger, there's work to be done.

Dutch people don't dwell on emotions. It's useful, but I also find us a little cold sometimes. There's a reason we have "no culture".

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

think there is an extra cultural aspect here for NL about how seriously detrimental it is for yourself to show anger.

Yep I have seen that indeed. At the same time I'm not sure to what point is healthy to constantly repress everything.

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u/AllHailTheWinslow ex-Niederbayern Aug 07 '22

Dear Portugal, would you accept an almost sixty-year old German Australian? I would be more than happy to learn the language and pay taxes!

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u/gin-o-cide Malta Aug 07 '22

24%? Surely it did not factor driving.

Also, Maltese-Polish bromance continues.

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u/Designer_Plant4828 Aug 07 '22

Turkey, why u have to be mad, its only game

In a high pitch voice

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u/cauIkasian Romania Aug 07 '22

Surprised to see Portugal so low, they are maybe to angriest drivers I've seen, at least in Porto.

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u/xroodx_27 Aug 07 '22

Not angry just passionate about driving fluidly

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