r/movies
•
u/Balls_of_Adamanthium
•
2d ago
•
1
4
1
3
5
3
'Prey': How 'Predator' prequel makes history as Hollywood's 1st franchise movie to star all-Native American cast Article
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/prey-predator-prequel-native-american-indigenous-cast-amber-midthunder-interview-150054578.html528
u/zjustice11 2d ago
I just liked how simple this one was. I do not need a bunch of exposition or detail discussion about why predators do what they do. I’d like to know where they come from sure, but mainly I just wanna see them hunt This was a good, simple predator movie. I hope we get more.
95
u/Australian-Hungarian 1d ago
Same. I loved how grounded this one was. More doesn't mean better.
→ More replies119
u/MCE85 2d ago
Really liked this one. A ton of call backs to the previous films too which was cool.
30
u/Horknut1 1d ago
If it bleeds, we can kill it.
→ More replies9
u/Pestilence86 1d ago
I laughed so hard. Also i thought she'd be completely submerged and covered in mud, and accidentally figure out she's invisible, but then it turned out to be a reference to Schwarzenegger too.
49
→ More replies17
u/aesthetic_cock 1d ago
It should have always been kept simple “they hunt for sport” “they hunt as initiation into their cultures manhood” leave it at that.
→ More replies
8.0k
u/Kinky_Falcon
2d ago
•
Just finished it.
Very solid flick. A lot of fun and at 90 minutes it’s over before it starts to get boring.
Would highly recommend it.
3.5k
u/Actually-Yo-Momma 2d ago
“It’s over before it starts to get boring”
Sign me up coach. I hate movies that are dragged out for no reason
→ More replies747
u/darkhorse298 2d ago
You know it's getting bad when random garbage action movies are pushing two hours. Like fellas this movie will never be citizen Kane let's be succinct.
→ More replies473
u/cashmoney109 2d ago
You telling me Jurassic Park 6 didn't need to be 146 minutes long?
→ More replies226
u/darkhorse298 2d ago
I'm always curious to see what the hell they did cut. We need the 180 minute directors cut.
47
u/flyingboarofbeifong 2d ago
Tons of exposition to try and justify how silly of a situation it has become.
144
u/psymunn 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's impressive having a movie be 2 hours long with absolutely zero pacing or downtime. It's like some one made a movie out of a 6 year old rambling about dinosaurs for 2 hours straight (and not a 6 year old who happens to know a lot about dinosaurs)
→ More replies50
u/Mediocremon 1d ago
(and not a 6 year old who happens to know a lot about dinosaurs)
Those are the worst kind! Gimme the dinokid any day. Teach me, six year old senpai.
→ More replies→ More replies91
707
u/Grof_Grofson 2d ago
Just finished it too, just a couple quick references to the other movies, and it didn't waste time coming up with some half baked back story. Very tight story telling and didn't waste time.
→ More replies335
2d ago
[deleted]
219
u/SadisticBuddhist 2d ago
This and NOPE have redeemed movies for me lately. Just wish I could see Prey in theaters.
→ More replies71
u/Grof_Grofson 2d ago
Haven't been out to see NOPE yet but I really want to. I agree, Prey would have been good at the theater too.
→ More replies62
u/SadisticBuddhist 2d ago
I’d say catch it before it’s out of theaters. The sound is A+
→ More replies28
290
u/dj_narwhal 2d ago
How is Amber Midthunder? I absolutely loved her in Legion.
129
u/Mahale 2d ago
Ah ha! That's where I recognize her from!
→ More replies56
u/cortex04 2d ago
Saw her in The Ice Road alongside Liam Neeson for the first time.
→ More replies43
u/Mahale 2d ago
She's fantastic in legion plays a very complex character.
17
u/cortex04 2d ago
Ahan! Looks like I should resume watching Legion then. Got distracted after 3 or 4 episodes of season 1.
→ More replies63
u/Singer211 2d ago
She’s fantastic in this. Her character is also well written as well.
→ More replies101
80
u/tetten 2d ago
Amber Midthunder
What a bad ass name lol, that could be a superhero name.
→ More replies10
62
→ More replies70
u/Sevnfold 2d ago
Shes great. The movie isnt perfect, I could nitpick a few things, but it's fun. And Amber is good as well as her brother in the movie.
→ More replies38
u/TheUnrepententLurker 1d ago
Her brother absolutely steals his scenes. First film credit too
→ More replies→ More replies104
u/belonii 2d ago
i enjoyed it dispite the bad cg animals, the new predator design is top notch and the slow burn story really fits(and also echo's predator 1). probably the best post predator 2 predator movie, dunno if it holds up on rewatch tho
22
u/HeartofLion3 1d ago
Yeah the cgi was really noticeably mediocre during the daytime scenes. It looked a lot better when they used the night and evening scenes to cover it up like Jurassic park.
43
u/fathertime979 1d ago
I thought the cgi was pretty good for a more budget friendly cgi.
We often forget how far we've come with cgi especially when the budget is fuckin huge.
→ More replies→ More replies20
u/TheMcWhopper 1d ago edited 1d ago
Cgi wasn't bad. I thought it looked fairly good, just not groundbreaking
→ More replies18
u/CeruleanRuin 1d ago
Everyone criticizing it would have been shitting themselves over it five or ten years ago. We are so spoiled.
785
u/polloloco81 1d ago
I remember watching the first predator movie as a kid and totally creeped out by how scary and menacing the Predator was. I’m happy to say Prey’s predator creeped me out as well and I’m now a full grown adult. It definitely did not skip abs day.
184
u/KurayamiShikaku 1d ago
It definitely did not skip abs day.
It had like 18 of them motherfuckers
→ More replies29
→ More replies27
468
u/Ok-Lengthiness6170 2d ago
Did those French guys not count?
921
2d ago •
[removed] — view removed comment
→ More replies233
u/simpledeadwitches 2d ago
As a Frenchman myself I have to agree. We are mostly butter fat.
48
→ More replies9
→ More replies37
1.5k
u/KID_THUNDAH 2d ago edited 2d ago
A bit nitpicky, but the headline is incorrect, it’s not an all Native American cast. Don’t wanna spoil it with more detail, but It was a predominantly Native American cast
Even without getting into details of the movie, the headline says All and the first Paragraph of the article says predominantly lol
→ More replies944
u/AsleepNinja 1d ago
I mean the alien isn't a native American
→ More replies654
u/465554544255434B52 1d ago
Hollywood Probably didn't even cast a real alien smdh
277
u/M1K3jr 1d ago
John Leguizamo is gonna be pissed!
→ More replies80
u/starcoder 1d ago
I get this reference
25
u/ripcurrent 1d ago
Me too!!! Have a great day fellow redditor! May your movies be succinct and entertaining.
→ More replies→ More replies33
3.5k
u/Balls_of_Adamanthium 2d ago
“You so rarely see a period piece where indigenous people get to be full people. It’s either people who are very savage or overly spiritual. So getting to show a variety of personalities with social dynamics and all kinds of things like that, and inside of a movie [series] like Predator, which is also just fun and exciting and entertaining, to me is just like the best thing in the world.”
Preserve Trachtenberg at all cost.
1.2k
u/EscapeFromPost 2d ago edited 2d ago
And indigenous people and culture. I appreciate Trachtenberg for seeing the importance in that, and hope it leads to more opportunities for them to tell their own stories, as well.
Give me more Rutherford Falls, more Reservation Dogs, more Wild Indian.
Edit: omg thank you all for the new recs, I'm gonna check them all out soon!
380
u/Smailien 2d ago
more Reservation Dogs
Just as a heads up for everyone, Reservation Dogs season 2 started up recently. S'go den.
→ More replies110
134
u/fractalfocuser 2d ago
How dare you not have Smokesignals on that list
→ More replies71
u/wross1 2d ago
Some days its a good day to die, others its a good day to have breakfast
8
u/230flathead 2d ago
Arlene Joseph makes the best frybread! Some Jesus frybread. Frybread that can raise the dead. Frybread that walks on water!
→ More replies21
17
u/SporesM0ldsandFungus 1d ago
If you're looking other indigenous peoples in interesting sci-fi roles, check out Cara Gee in The Expanse. She's Ojibwe. She kills it playing Camina Drummer.
7
u/honest-miss 1d ago
I say this for every danged character on that show, but Drummer genuinely has a special place in my heart. Sometimes I still watch her speech just for the danged thrill of it.
→ More replies→ More replies65
u/breadburn 2d ago
Check out Blood Quantum too. Mostly indigenous cast, pretty cool story. Worth a watch.
→ More replies91
u/wcg66 2d ago edited 2d ago
I used to watch the Totally Rad Show and even got to meet them all at SXSW, It's great to see Dan become so successful.
26
→ More replies20
→ More replies113
114
u/IFS84 1d ago
Does this mean we can finally have Turok the movie? Thats all I want.
Just sell it as the original all American hero! I'll even write it if you need.
Sorry, have been dreaming of it since I was like 8.
→ More replies
23
u/Zam-Wow 2d ago
If I had a nickel for every horror project titled Prey with Native American characters involving aliens I’d have 2 nickels. It’s not a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice.
→ More replies
2.2k
u/kappaomicron 2d ago edited 1d ago
My biggest issue with pretty much all of the movies that came after Predator is how they trivialised the Predator's strength. The first one featured Arnold's character and a team of battle-hardened soldiers, and none of them stood a chance against the Predator in hand-to-hand combat.
Which isn't at all surprising when you're dealing with a humanoid who can literally rip out your fuckin' spine with their bare hands.
Arnold, despite being built like a tank, had to rely on his wits with traps in the first Predator, and was treated like a ragdoll being thrown around effortlessly even as a guy his size. Yet these newer movies often have some average looking person going toe-toe with one of these fuckers, and I always instantly get thrown out of the movie because of it.
I'm really hoping this movie returns to how scary the Predator originally was, and how no normal human could stand any hope or chance when attacking one head on.
Edit: Movie Spoilers Below!
Recently watched the movie. It was pretty good at first, but towards the end had some stupid parts in it that took me out of the movie.
It's definitely a step in the right direction, but am I really supposed to believe a Predator doesn't know how his own fucking weapon operates? The way it was defeated was stupid.
The way the protagonist "figured out" the Predator couldn't see due to low body heat felt low effort mental gymnastics. There shouldn't have been a scene where the Predator had her by the throat, at that point it's game over. He could have easily crushed her windpipe with his grip alone. He wrestled a fucking bear and barely lost in terms of strength. Then proceeded to kill the bear by opting not to wrestle with it again, and instead side-step dodged and punched it so hard in the head, it died.
I was really loving the movie in the beginning, it was really good. But some of the things were poorly executed or fleshed out. I think instead of the bullshit flower petals making your body cold enough not to be picked up on thermals, she should have figured out the trick with his sight by accidentally getting covered in mud like the original.
Instead of the Predator being so inept with how his weapons work, she should have just stolen the mask and buried it somewhere to remove his ability to fire. Then defeated the Predator by luring him into the quicksand/mud pit trap. Doesn't matter how strong you are in those, the harder you struggle, the deeper you sink and die. That would have defeated the Predator.
390
u/Porrick 2d ago
On the other hand, one of the only things I liked about Alien Versus Predator was how it showed Predators as not being equally badass. The first couple of Predators completely suck and are taken out by the Aliens almost as easily as squishy humans. I was just about to complain about how lame this is (along with everything else that was lame in that movie), when the last Predator decapitated an alien without even glancing in its direction. That one knows its shit.
That contrast sets the Predators up as, sure, being super strong and having lots of lethal technology - but emphasizes how important their skill and training is. The ones who pass their weird gauntlet rituals are the ones who know their shit; the ones who don't know their shit are just as much Alien food as humans are.
180
u/Boffleslop 2d ago edited 1d ago
It's been awhile since I've seen AvP, but I'm pretty sure the first two predators are taken out by the same Alien (who eventually has the net scarring).
103
27
u/Significant-Mud2572 1d ago
And the first one, I think it was, was built like a brick shit house of a predator.
→ More replies95
u/strayjay50 1d ago
The Predators in AvP are younger, less experienced Youngbloods. (with the exception of the elders seen at the end)
Both of the Yautja killed by Grid died because of their own hubris - the first, Chopper, tried to make a trophy out of an unarmed human and got ambushed. The second, Celtic, failed to consider the defining characteristic of the xenomorphs: acid blood, and claimed victory before he had actually won.
The Yautja are kind of depicted as cowards and shitty hunters in the films. Constantly ambushing far weaker, sometimes even unarmed, prey (humans) using technology that outclasses human's by thousands of years and still losing because of their prideful ways and constantly underestimating human ingenuity. They're still one of my top 3 alien races in sci-fi though
29
u/HappyApple99999 1d ago
If I remember in the book the older Predator kills a younger one for breaking the rules by hunting humans without permission
8
54
u/davsyo 1d ago
I think that’s the point of the first movie. Soldiers used brute force against the unknown and got wasted. Dutch switched up tactics to becoming the unknown to the Yautja’s brute force to defeat the Yautja.
It may not have been the point but it was the point that I took away at least.
→ More replies→ More replies9
u/HypeConducta 1d ago
They also rage-quit like a motherfucker when they lose.. blowing themselves and everyone else to kingdom come lol
55
u/_duncan_idaho_ 2d ago
Then he let his guard down and got shanked by the queen. Idiot.
30
u/Significant-Mud2572 1d ago
She was just getting payback for his epic, spinny, spear to the neck move he pulled on her.
→ More replies53
u/Throwawayintocosmos 1d ago
Humans have the same diversity. There are people doing 1200 spins on skateboards, free diving 100s of meters, juggling and solving multiple rubik's cubes, solving general relativity, that bald guy who's a firefighter/police/professor/doctor/mechanic/etc., and then there's me vigorously rinsing the cut on my finger to get off the spicy cheeto dust.
1.2k
u/ghigoli 2d ago
this predator is more of a juvenile one (in prey). but the body count is really high. this one looks scary as fuck and it has some scenes that go "holy shit how can a human even try to fight that?"
→ More replies704
u/todahawk 2d ago
It was so good, by far and away the best Predator movie after the original. Loved it.
Definitely recommend watching the Comanche language version too!
→ More replies118
u/zslayer89 2d ago
How do you watch the Comanche language version?
All I could access for language options was English.
→ More replies194
u/todahawk 2d ago
If you're on Hulu below the watch icon is a strip. It has a drop down for the other predator films and the second one from the left the option for Prey (Comanche Dub).
If' you're on Disney+ it's under extras
→ More replies44
u/thx1138- 2d ago
Okay but that katana duel in Predators was pretty badass.
→ More replies14
u/Slimmzli 2d ago
I saw somewhere people were brainstorming different time periods and ancient Japan was one of those
24
u/nomoneyjesse 1d ago
This is what it should be honestly. Show me warriors from different periods of time fighting like samurai, pirates, knights. Maybe that shit would be too stupid at some point but it's better than every single movie being about a military unit with guns.
→ More replies7
13
u/simpledeadwitches 2d ago
They do a good job showing the Predator taking damage through the film which leads to our humans having more of a chance, in addition out protagonists use traps and cunning to trick it as best they can on top of being some of the fiercest warriors of their time period it all fits together nicely.
→ More replies65
u/Ghoulius-Caesar 2d ago
They’ve been different Predators each time, maybe Arnie got an absolute unit and all the other people are getting the weaklings of the Predator species.
→ More replies53
u/Explorer2138 1d ago
If I remember right (in-universe lore wise) the Predator in the first film was one that had already killed at least one full-grown Xenomorph. Apparently Yautja's (Predators) only earn the right to use the shoulder plasma cannon thing when they've killed at least one Xenomorph in hand-to-hand combat. So it stands to reason that the Predator in the first film was already a fairly capable killer.
→ More replies27
2d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
25
u/kleptophobiac 2d ago
Once the French trappers came into the story, I was pretty sure that they were going to just have a native-warrior-and-predator-team-up-to-kill-the-invaders storyline, with both of them alive at the end and mutual respect earned. I was very pleased when I realized, "Oh, she's just going to kill this mother fucker."
18
u/Neversoft4long 2d ago
The bear was working it for a bit tho. It has the pred pinned and was ragdolling him in the river before it backed off because it thought the pred was dead.
→ More replies12
u/SmArburgeddon 2d ago
Yeah and even the wolf got a bite in before it was booted across the wilderness.
210
u/Optimal_Locke 2d ago
Oh boy I'm excited for you to watch this then. Strongest Predator ever put on film.
217
u/CursedHuskerFan 2d ago
The girzzly bear fight was pretty fucking sweet
→ More replies118
52
u/kappaomicron 2d ago
You and some of the other replies are dangerously getting my hopes up... xD
37
→ More replies44
u/alwaysjustpretend 2d ago
Just finished it......was excellent. Definitely best predator since the og.
→ More replies→ More replies44
u/fxrky 2d ago
Please tell me you're not being sarcastic ill go see it right this second
→ More replies81
→ More replies57
u/Nameless-Servant 2d ago
Haven’t seen it yet, but I’ve heard from people who have that this Predator’s specialty is hand to hand combat so you may get your wish
27
u/2rfv 1d ago
Prey had the most fluid fighting predator I've ever seen. Really enjoyed the way he fought.
→ More replies→ More replies50
u/p5ych0babble 2d ago
I got the feeling he was matching his weapons with what his opponents were using.
→ More replies25
u/nomoneyjesse 1d ago
Yeah this is pretty much confirmed and shown in every movie. They prefer to match the weaponry to the enemy for a "fair" fight. Prey shows this pretty explicitly when the Predator only uses certain weaponry after facing "equivalent" force.
→ More replies
172
u/SmArburgeddon 2d ago
I'm confused by what this means because although the vast majority of the cast were Native American it certainly wasn't all of them, there's a number of white actors in the movie too.
→ More replies83
u/nikhkin 2d ago
The article even backtracks to say "predominantly native American cast" in the first paragraph.
→ More replies12
u/thisguy012 1d ago
Yahoo gotta get clicks in 2022 somehow (jk this is probably just as much Hulu/Prey's PR dept. putting in work)
→ More replies
80
u/Sea-Gain-2544 1d ago
Just finished it! It’s really neat- I like the primitive combat and it was pretty refreshing to see. Super campy gore, but had some really striking visuals nonetheless.
I hope to see Amber Midthunder and Dakota Beavers in more stuff- they rocked and were a joy to watch.
→ More replies
653
u/masimone 2d ago edited 2d ago
Not trying to take anything away from this but wasn't Apocalypto all Maya people?
Edit: okay got it. Not a franchise, not part of USA.
358
u/striderwhite 2d ago
Not a franchise, not part of USA.
They always find a loophole...😂
→ More replies198
u/DigitalEllusion 2d ago
Morbius was the first US film featuring a Living Vampire that made a MorBillion Dollars
→ More replies33
→ More replies53
u/Synsano 2d ago
That was my take. They can use whatever language they want to make this sound like some kind of first, but Apocalypto will always be the ground breaker for this category.
→ More replies
1.5k
u/whiskeyeuthanasia
2d ago
•
The Predator isn't Native American! With those teeth he's half British at least!
→ More replies761
u/PhoenixReborn 2d ago
Well well well, if it isn't the invisible c**t.
153
u/ToneBone12345 2d ago
Not sure if was intentional or not considering Dan tenchberg also directed the series premiere of the boys
→ More replies80
u/OrionSouthernStar 2d ago
As a read that line I heard Butcher’s voice in my head.
16
9
u/Big_Nevs_Tache 1d ago
Of course you did, my love. Now fuck off back to the stalls while we sort this shit out
→ More replies36
13
u/Tossing_Goblets 2d ago
Just a Footnote - Sonny Landham, who played Billy in the first Predator Movie, Was Half Cherokee and one-eighth Seminole, according to his Wikipedia page.
→ More replies
178
u/Robot_ninja_pirate 2d ago edited 2d ago
The "franchise' distinction is such a weasely way to make it the first of something that it otherwise wouldn't be, cause it's the first in a franchise to be an all-Native American cast, not the first franchise to be an all-Native American cast, so if we are just talking about a one-off film in a franchise why not compare it to other one-offs? It's a distinction with no difference.
→ More replies71
u/KID_THUNDAH 2d ago
It’s also not an all-Native American cast, it’s an exaggerated headline, the first paragraph literally says predominantly Native American lol
→ More replies
98
u/thats1evildude 2d ago edited 2d ago
Misleading headline. The alien that is playing the Predator antagonist is not Native American or even native to Earth. 🤪
→ More replies
36
u/anser_one 2d ago
More than time they came back to what made predator great. Throwing the beast in another movie genre. Jungle war, cop/city etc
27
u/league_starter 1d ago
Need predator vs samurais set in medieval Japan next or just medieval knights and then vs. Roman army
→ More replies9
85
u/DontKnowAnyBetter 2d ago
Naru was a fantastic protagonist. Amber Midthunder deserved to be a lead on the big screen.
→ More replies
58
u/PickleClear 2d ago
Watched it last night, really enjoyed it. My favourite looking predator so far, it looked gnarly!
Hope to see more prequels from different time periods
→ More replies9
u/Am-I-Introspective 1d ago
Oh I’d love that! I don’t want to take away from this movie’s idea but there’s a predator video game that has different types of armor for predators from different eras that depict them as mythological figures.
One of my personal favorites was an outfit for a female predator with pagan knots and a wing-like tipped helmet. The info for the outfit mentions the predator swooping in on great battles to give the last standing warriors their honorable death in combat to enter Valhalla. In other words, it was the what Vikings referred to as a Valkyrie.
I thought that was such a cool premise for historical myths, especially valkyries. Instead of them flying down to take you to Viking “heaven” after death, they oblige wounded warriors with one last fight. A win win for both cultures too.
→ More replies
5.3k
u/elriggo44 2d ago •
Wasn’t Apocolypto all indigenous people?